CD Player – Music For The Masses https://www.audioreviews.org Music For The Masses Thu, 28 Dec 2023 18:36:11 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 https://www.audioreviews.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/cropped-audioreviews.org-rd-no-bkgrd-1-32x32.png CD Player – Music For The Masses https://www.audioreviews.org 32 32 Moondrop DISCDREAM Review – Discotheque https://www.audioreviews.org/moondrop-discdream-review-jk/ https://www.audioreviews.org/moondrop-discdream-review-jk/#respond Sun, 05 Nov 2023 03:01:00 +0000 https://www.audioreviews.org/?p=74538 The $199 Moondrop DISCDREAM is a very-good sounding (trans)portable CD/SD-card player that drives even demanding headphones like my 300 ohm

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The $199 Moondrop DISCDREAM is a very-good sounding (trans)portable CD/SD-card player that drives even demanding headphones like my 300 ohm Sennheiser HD 600 well and also works as a DAC /amp for your computer. Whilst it features a dedicated line out, it sadly lacks digital outputs.

PROS

  • Excellent sonic qualities
  • Lots of power
  • Line out
  • Gapless play
  • Attractive design
  • Spinning CD with visual appeal
  • Good build
  • Makes you re-visit your vintage music

CONS

  • No digital outputs
  • Bulky for a portable
  • No protective storage bag

The Moondrop DISCDREAM was kindly supplied by SHENZHENAUDIO for my review – and I think them for that. You can purchase it here.

Introduction

The compact disc (CD) is a digital optical disc data storage format that was co-developed by Philips and Sony, and first released in Japan back in 1982. CDs were very expensive in the mid 1980s in my native West Germany — more than twice the cost of an LP (how times have changed!). My friends, professional classical musicians, were fascinated by the detail retrieval compared to analog sources at the time.

CDs buyers frequently purchased this digital format for experiencing the sound quality — and not necessarily for the content. I once ended up with a 1907 (!) recording by Enrique Caruso, which sounded…terrible.

When it comes to vinyl I had issues as, in Germany, customers could play records in stores, then put them back on the shelf. I frequently purchased “new” albums with fingerprints and scratches. The CD came to the rescue.

I started acquiring digital in 1988 and have accumulated >3000 CDs since. Thanks to the Apple Airport Express, I started ripping my CDs as early as 2003, but the physical copies remained…cluttering our house up. Ask my wife.

In the meantime, CD prices have come down considerably, whereas vinyl has skyrocketed during its recent comeback. Hipsters have embraced analog technology and vintage Hifi stores’ sales soar. And, in analog…y to the mid 1980s, just inversely, they purchase vinyl for the sound experience and not so much for the music.

How else would anybody fork out >$50 for an obscure Jethro Tull album or Fleetwood Mac’s Greatest Hits…when you can pick up CD versions in a thrift store for a couple of bucks? I also don’t see the need for purchasing post 1982 recordings that have been produced for digital media.

Been there, done that. It sometimes pays to be old. And as history repeats itself, hipsters are increasingly picking up CDs, whereas serious equipment reviewers like Steve Guttenberg have always relied on this medium. I belong to the latter and have never given up on CDs (while dusting off my old Thorens TD147 record player occasionally).

Was the race on for old vinyl, so has this hunt changed for original CD recordings, as many if not most recent remasters suffer from dynamic compression: sound great in your car stereo but not on your $$$$$ home system.

Today, decent, affordable CD players and transports have become rare, as not many companies produce drive mechanisms, possibly for the lack of customer demand. Strictly speaking, any moving medium has become obsolete with the advent of SSDs.

But since the world typically rotates in cycles, the CD is currently experiencing a comeback – and some manufacturers have discovered it: Shanling and SMSL have released HiFi CD Players recently.

Moondrop, the company out of my Chinese Alma Mater Chengdu, Sichuan, have expanded lately, from originally mainly earphones into headphones, dongle DACs, and now a portable CD Player. Their DISCDREAM is the product of Moondrop’s cooperation with a senior developer who had been involved in Sony’s Discman concept more than 30 years ago.

The company wanted to supply all these guys with a portable CD player, who cannot find a working vintage one, thereby integrating the latest technology such as modern DAC chips and amplification. The DISCDREAM also has functionalities the old Discmen lacked. It looks like this, bigger than the old portables:

Moondrop DiscDream
The Moondrop DISCDREAM in action: quite big for a portable player with the spinning disc as visual effect.

In a companion article, I will compare old and new CD player generations.

Specifications Moondrop DISCDREAM

Battery Capacity: 3500mAh
Charge Time: ???
Power Supply: DC5V/2A
Battery Life: 10 Hours(CD)
Charging Port: Type-C
Output Power: Phone out 500mW
Output Voltage: Line out 2Vrms
Supported Disc Formats: CD/CD-R/CD-RW
Supported Audio Formats: Micro SD Mode(MP3,WMA,LC-AAC,OGG,FLAC,APE)
PC mode: PCM:44.1kHz to 384kHz, DSD: 2.8224MHz to 11.2896MHz
Gapless Play: yes
Tested at: $199
Product Page: Moondroplab
Purchase Link:
SHENZHENAUDIO

Physical Things

In the box are: the player, a USB-C charging cable and poster-sized manuals in English, Chinese, and Japanese…and the QC card.

The player’s shell is made of metal with a lid mainly of glass, which makes for an attractive visual effect watching the spinning CD. But it is also a fingerprint magnet and prone to scratching. Have your Windex ready. There are 4 rather grippy rubber feet on the bottom. A protective bag of soft fabric would have been good but is not included.

The design is reminiscent of the wall-mounted Nakamachi CD changers you found in 1990s record stores. I remember auditioining music with these at MusicPlex on Portage and Main in Winnipeg, MB, and at HMB on Catherine St. in Montreal, PQ.

Check the product page for further details.

Moondrop DiscDream

Functionality and Operation

The DISCDREAM does

  • play CDs and SACDs gaplessly
  • play music from a micro SD card
  • act as DAC and amp for a computer source [and for DAPs, too]
  • feature a dedicated line out
  • offer a 3..5 mm headphone jack

It does not

  • have digital outputs
  • rip CDs
  • have a balanced circuit
  • have Bluetooth capabilities
  • have a remote

Interface

Front Panel

…features six buttons for the usual operation and also a crisp display.

See here for operational details

Moondrop Discdream

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Moondrop DiscDream
The front panel features the standard CD-player buttons…
Moondrop DiscDream
…and a sharp display.

Side Panels

The right panel features an SC-card slot (for music), a dedicated line out, and a 3.5 mm headphone jack. The left panel is blank.

Moondrop DiscDream
The right side features a dedicated line out, a 3.5 mm headphone jack, and a micro-SD-card slot.

Back Panel

You find the on/off switch, a pinhead LED (green when charging), and a USB-C port for charging and connecting to a computer.

Moondrop DiscDream
The back hosts the on/off switch, an small LED, and a USB-C port.

Playing Music from CD, SD Card, and PC

You can switch between these three different sources with the button next to the display.

Playing CDs is straight forward…you lift up the lid and mount your CD, just like on your record player…and push the start button. The drive starts swiftly and operates quietly. Track changes (forward-backward) are smooth. If you wish, you can leave the lid up, just like on your turntable.

Operating music from an SD card is a different story as the small display is much simpler than that of a DAP. The system ignores folder hierarchies and labels songs from 1 to X. You therefore can never be quite sure what song is playing and what album will be next. An error sign appears when the music organization on the SD card is too complex for the system to handle.

As to USB: works for my Mac with the included USB-C to USB-A cable. Since both DISCDREAM and current MacBooks use USB-C ports, I had to dig out an adapter. Unfortunately, the USB-C port is NOT a digital out – I tested it with an external DAC: it does not work.

Outside the specs: I also connected my iPhone and the Hidizs AP80 Pro-X DAP to the DISCDREAM’s USB-C port. As expected, iPhone “did not support this accessory” and the DAP worked well…but with a caveat: since the USB-C port is also used for charging, the DISCDREAM started “milking” the DAP.

Amplification and Power

The DISCDREAM has a volume scale up to 50 (check the specs above for detailed numbers). I run the 32 ohm Beyerdynamic Custom Pro at 7-8 and the hungry 300 ohm Sennheiser HD 600 on 19-20, at leisurely listening. On quiet recordings, and craving some oomph, I crank the dial just above 30 with the Senns. Plenty of power for most headphones.

Moondrop DiscDream
The DISCDREAM handles even the 300 ohm Sennheiser HD 600 with ease.

Sound

The DISCDREAM sounds like a classic mid-tier CD player. Very clean, very good separation, very transparent image, very good resolution. Very “widescreen” with the HD 600. Excellent note definition with well rounded notes. I am surprised how good it sounds.

Let’s put it like that: I Iistened to Dire Straits’ “Brother ins Arms” album, the complete Freischütz opera by Carl M. von Weber, and Pink Floyd’s “Echoes”. Could not stop.

In an unfair but useful comparison, my $1300 Marantz SA8005 with integrated headphone amp sounds grittier, deeper, fuller, more organic, with more bass rumble, but it also has a narrower stage. The Moondrop sounds a bit more subtle, more polished, finer, and wider. But the differences are not earth shattering. I’d tie them in terms of overall technicalities.

My 23 year-old TOTL Panasonic SL-CT780 portable player also manages the HD 600 (to my surprise). It sounds narrower, duller, and is technically much less refined than the DISCDREAM, particularly in terms of imaging, resolution, and upper extension.

Last but not least did I compare the DISCDREAM by itself vs. plugged into the EarMen CH-Amp. Again, the differences were not huge (unless you are in dire need for excess power). The CH-Amp delivered a slightly more relaxed, deeper image, the Moondrop’s built-in amp was a bit more forward. This means that the DISCDREAM is a mature device by itself.

DISCDREAM
DISCDREAM via line out and AudioQuest Golden Gate interconnect into EarMen CH-AMP.

Real-Life Use

The DISCDREAM is kind of an oddball in that it is of desktop size (with a footprint even larger than the EarMen stack) but comes with a battery and no digital out for connecting it to a DAC. On the other hand, it is too large for use on the bus or when walking downtown. Call it transportable rather than portable. And no-one would carry their CDs to a hotel room either.

So yes, you can use it with your phone’s 5V power supply (or the ifi iPowerX or Allo Nirvana) and you can plug it into an amp, if necessary, but this defies its purpose.

For me, it comes down to use within the house, being on the sofa or in bed. The DISCDREAM is kind of its own movable desktop stack. Finally…as I really hate my desk.

The Moondrop DiscDream made it onto our “Gear of the Year 2023” list.

Concluding Remarks

The Moondrop DISCREAM fills a niché occupied by mainly older listeners who are still sitting on their prehistoric CD collection – and hipsters who are newly discovering this medium. It plays my CDs satisfyingly well, and does justice even to demanding headphones. I finally pick up these stashes again after having ignored them for the last 30 years. A very engaging listening experience that is also optically appealing…when the disc spins.

What a very good idea you had, Moondrop.

Until next time…keep on listening!

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Tangent CD II Review (1) – Jitter Assault https://www.audioreviews.org/tangent-cd-ii-review-jk/ https://www.audioreviews.org/tangent-cd-ii-review-jk/#respond Sat, 07 Oct 2023 04:01:00 +0000 https://www.audioreviews.org/?p=73800 The €199.00/$300 CAD Tangent CD II is an elegant looking, small CD Player that offers adequate sound but lacks standard

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The €199.00/$300 CAD Tangent CD II is an elegant looking, small CD Player that offers adequate sound but lacks standard features such as continuous playback or a display. Its enormous jitter makes it a poor transport as it does not work with all DACs.

PROS

  • Small footprint
  • Stylish modern design
  • Metal case with decent button mechanism

CONS

  • Enormous jitter: does not work with all DACs
  • No continuous playback
  • No coaxial output
  • No display
  • Remote cannot directly access tracks above #6
  • Not very responsive support

I purchased the Tangent CD II at full price from Electronics For Less Canada.

Introduction

Tangent are a Danish audio company that had been established in 1996. They are known for their radios, loudspeakers, and Hifi components. Their designs follow these distinguished Scandinavian concepts we know from Bang & Olufsen or IKEA: simple and pragmatic, always with clear lines.

I purchased the Tangent CD II because I needed a small CD transport to work with a similarly sized desktop DAC/amp combo. After all, I have 3000-4000 CDs. Sure most of them have been ripped, but there is still the odd classical CD I had ignored in the past.

Specifications Tangent CD II

Standby consumption: <0.50W (EUP 2013)
Output: Optical, RCA Line Out
Finish: Black
Mains Power: 110-240V
Dimensions (w/o feet): 195x194x70mm (WxDxH)
OverBox Dimensions: 350x285x395mm
OverBox Weight (G/N): 7.6kg / 7.0kg (3pcs/ctn)
Retail Dimensions: 330x260x120mm (WxDxH)
Retail Weight (G/N): 2.2kg / 1.66kg

Continuous Playback: no
Display: none

THD+N: ?
SNR: ?
Linearity: ?
Total Correlated Jitter: ? [very bad in my testing]
Stop-Band Rejection: ?

Product Page: Tangent CD II
Manual: Tangent Danmark
Tested at: €199.00/$300 CAD

The most important specifications are not given (marked with “?”). When reading on, you may get an idea why.

Physicals, Functionality, and Operation

The Tangent CD II’s biggest asset is its small size: it is a square box, hardly exceeding the footprint of a CD. There is no display. The only indication that the player is on is a pinhead LED (white when on, red when on standby). The front panel is made of brushed steel with a row of buttons (with good mechanisms). the CDs are slot loaded, which works well. Good haptic and attractive design.

Tangent CD II
Front panel: brushed metal, modern and minimalistic;, barely wider than a CD. Deecent button mechanism, No display.
Tangent CD II
Back panel with RCA and optical line outs. A coaxial line out is missing.

The back panel features the on/off switch, the power outlet, analog RCA line outs and S/PDIF (optical). A coaxial out is sadly missed.

The remote is a universal one to be also used for the company’s fitting amp and streamer. What is lacking is the ability to select ANY track on the CD…you are out of luck above #6 (!!!).

The drive is quiet during operation and responsive to the remote.

Tangent CD II
Top: square geometry, hardly bigger than a CD. Standard remote with limited functionality.

Listening/Sound

In my testing, I used the Tangent CD II as transport only and as full CD Player. The same music was used with all sources. I listened with the easily driven final Sonorous III headphones.

Setup I: CD II as Transport

I connected the Tangent CD II via its optical line out with the EarMen Tradutto and SMSL DO200 MK II DACs. The DACs were connected to the EarMen CH-Amp via balanced and RCA interconnects. In this setup, the CD II was used as a transport only — bypassing its own DAC. I compared the CD II with my iPhone connected via USB to the DACs.

Using the Tangent CD II as transport only worked with the Tradutto DAC. The CD II / SMSL DAC combo produced regular music dropouts every few seconds. I tried several Toslink cables — no difference. All alternative sources connected optically with the SMSL worked fine, hence the CD II must be the culprit. The problem is most likely timing errors (jitter) from the CD II.

The more expensive and technically more sophisticated Tradutto appears to have a rather high jitter tolerance. Tangent should have added a coaxial line out as it is less prone to jitter than optical.

Tangent CD II
Tangent CD II connected to the EarMen stack.

Setup II: CD II as CD Player

I also wired the Tangent CD II directly into the CH-Amp via the RCA line outs, thereby bypassing the external DACs. In a comparison test, I replaced the CD II with a vintage Panasonic Portable CD Player (with a dedicated 3.5 mm line out).

Results/Interpretation

iPhone via USB vs. CD II via optical into external DAC: the USB signal was stronger/louder and richer. I had to turn the amp much higher up to get the same volume with the CD II. The CD II has more rounded notes (Toslink effect) and sounded flatter than iPhone/USB. The CD II’s sound quality was acceptable to my ears: nothing harsh sounding. But the CD II needed so much more amp power, which may become an issue with hungrier cans.

CD II through external Tradutto DAC revealed a better sound quality compared to using its own DAC. The CD II’s integrated DAC delivered the lowest signal volume of the testing.

Through its own DAC, the CD II played “better” than the Panasonic. Both had approximately the same low output volume level.

In summary, the iPhone transport via USB delivered the best results.

Criticism

Unfortunately, the Tangent CD II has severe technical and operational shortcomings. First, it does not work well as a CD transport because of its jitter — you may get dropouts in your DAC. Optical connections are prone to jitter, which could be mitigated by a coaxial output that the CD II lacks. I presume Tangent use cheap parts.

Another real bummer is the lack of continuous play: when listening to a Live album, you get gaps between tracks…which is really annoying….and, frankly, substandard.

Also amateurish is the limited functionality of the remote: you can only access tracks 1-6 directly. If you’d like to, for example, go to Variation #26 of J.S. Bach’s Goldberg Variations, you are out of luck. Sure, you can forward one by one, but the lack of a display makes your navigation much guesswork.

And then there is the low output level…

Summa summarum, it is no surprise that Tangent does not include the crucial specs in their manual.

Concluding Remarks

The Tangent CD II offers adequate performance as a CD Player, provided you listen to albums and don’t want to jump between tracks. As a CD transport, it is a tricky option as it may not work with all DACs because of its enormous timing errors through its optical line out. Several operational misses described above complete the list of plunders.

On the positive side, Its biggest assets are its attractive design and its small footprint.

I regret having purchased it as it simply does not do its job for me (as a CD transport) — and I find it overpriced. As it seems, it features the simplest technology available in an attractive box.

Tangent Danmark’s marketing obviously relies on the popularity of stylish Danish design in general and the potential customer may have subconsciously Bang & Olufsen in mind. But, under the hood, the CD II does not offer enough substance to warrant its purchase in my opinion as it lacks too many basics.

Until next time…keep on listening!

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